

It ties back to the story of her and Bieber. Danny and Brandon, how do you field all the requests for Billie and FINNEAS?ĭanny Rukasin: What’s a more relatable topic for Billie to write about than a teenage girl who’s a huge fan of music?īrandon Goodman: And being obsessed with a heartthrob artist. You two also wrote original music for Disney/Pixar’s Turning Red.

At the Grammys, during commercial breaks, everybody was walking up and saying hi. “I love it.”įINNEAS: Because of music festival culture, you really get to know your contemporaries. “Is this therapy or an interview?” quips Rukasin. “That’s a great partner to have,” says Goodman, before adding with a laugh, “Go back to me again.” Goodman calls Rukasin “the most attention-to-detail-oriented person I’ve met in my entire life,” one who can “see far out and have the most efficient grid of time - which has really helped Billie have such a dynamic career as far as hitting every angle and being everywhere.”
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Goodman excels at “seeing very quickly what’s necessary and what’s not,” Rukasin says, adding that he inherently understands how to navigate the industry’s behind-the-scenes business. Like any good team, Goodman and Rukasin say their greatest strengths are complementary. (She is signed to The Darkroom in partnership with Interscope.) “That Janick is the head of this company that signed Billie is a crazy, full-circle moment for me,” says Rukasin. Goodman started managing his first band as a senior at Michigan State University in the late 1990s and early 2000s, Rukasin played trombone in pop-punk band The Hippos - the first release on label Fueled by Ramen, which kicked off a 20-year working relationship with John Janick (FBR’s founder and now chairman/CEO of Interscope Geffen A&M). That’s how it started, and evolved into such a bigger part of the team, executing everything.”īoth Goodman and Rukasin knew well what it’s like for young artists diving headfirst into the industry. It’s about hiring the right people who are capable, but also helping them develop into superstar managers themselves.” That group includes Laura Ramsay, who handles Eilish’s and FINNEAS’ day-to-day matters as Rukasin puts it, Ramsay “has an incredible ability to understand Billie and FINNEAS and their taste.” Adds Goodman: “Billie wants to see every single thing and we want to oblige that, so we needed someone who was with her.


“At the same time,” Rukasin continues, “we’ve grown a great team around them and can lend what we’ve learned in the past 10 years to other projects and clients that we really love. That approach has, of course, yielded monumental results, from Eilish’s 2019 chart-topping debut, When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?, to FINNEAS’ own debut full-length, Optimist, being released last year, and much in between: Grammy sweeps, an Academy Award win, history-making bookings for Eilish as the youngest solo artist to headline Coachella and Glastonbury. “Brandon and I are both extremely focused on Billie and FINNEAS, and we never want to take our eyes off that ball,” says Rukasin. (The two met a decade ago when their respective clients at the time toured together.) By 2019, they co-founded Best Friends, a management, publishing and recording company that has since also signed Bishop Briggs, Role Model and other artists, writers and producers to management deals. He became Eilish and FINNEAS’ de facto manager, later bringing on Brandon Goodman, 37, as co-manager at the top of 2016. “I was like, ‘Wait, how old is she again?’ ” Rukasin remembers. A day later, FINNEAS uploaded what would become Eilish’s breakout hit, “Ocean Eyes,” to SoundCloud - and Rukasin was one of the first to call.
